Lion B738M aircraft lost height and crashed into Java Sea near Jakarta after takeoff

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Lion B738M aircraft lost height and crashed into Java Sea near Jakarta after takeoff

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Post by Bell 407 » Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:01 am

Lion B738M aircraft lost height and crashed into Java Sea near Jakarta after takeoff

A Lionair Boeing 737-800 MAX, registration PK-LQP performing flight JT-610 from Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang (Indonesia) with 181 passengers and 7 crew, was climbing out of Jakarta when the aircraft reached a maximum altitude of about 5400 feet, then lost height, radar contact was lost about 35nm northeast of Jakarta over the Java Sea. Rescue services are on their way to the suspected crash site, first ships have reached the crash site and located oil slicks as well as debris from the aircraft including mobile phones and first body parts.

Indonesian Authorities reported it is certain the aircraft crashed north of the Karawang area in the waters of the Java Sea. First ships have reached the crash site, water depth at the site is about 30-35 meters. At the surface there were oil slicks as well as debris from the aircraft. No survivors or bodies have been found so far.

Indonesia's Ministry of Transport reported a tug boat saw an aircraft crash into the Java sea. Radar contact with the aircraft carrying 178 passengers, 2 babies and one infant as well as two pilots and five flight attendants was lost at position S5.8156 E107.1231. The accident aircraft was registered on Aug 15th 2018 and received its certificate of airworthiness also on Aug 15th 2018. Indonesia's BASARNAS are in charge of the rescue and recovery operation and are sending their units to the suspected crash site.

Indonesia's Civil Aviation Authority reported the aircraft requested to return to Jakarta.

Basarnas reports there are currently attempts to dive to the aircraft in the waters about 30-35 meters deep. First debris has been collected from the water surface including mobile phones and first body parts.

According to ADS-B data transmitted by the aircraft's transponder the aircraft departed Jakarta's runway 25L at 06:21L (23:21Z Oct 28th), never climbed above 5400 feet remaining between 5200 and 5400 feet for about 6 minutes before losing altitude and disappearing from radar about 12 minutes after departure at about 06:33L (23:33Z) about 35nm northeast of Jakarta's International Airport.

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Post by Enuf Sed » Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:03 am

Not good indeed. Very new aircraft. Wonder what went wrong?



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Post by 87Juliet » Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:58 am

Any possibility of terror? How long has the MAX been in service now? This is a very new airplane, any issues that Boeing might need to give some urgent attention to?



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Post by Bell 407 » Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:08 am

87Juliet wrote:
Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:58 am
Any possibility of terror? How long has the MAX been in service now? This is a very new airplane, any issues that Boeing might need to give some urgent attention to?
Read somewhere that they requested to return to base but crashed soon after. So if in comms with base then technical issue and not terror related perhaps?



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Post by avi-addict » Mon Oct 29, 2018 6:16 pm

Could it be that they had a thrust problem and could'nt climb and with the absense of lift got into a stall...?



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Post by avi-addict » Mon Oct 29, 2018 6:21 pm

It suffered a 'technical' problem the previous day on a flight and went into maintenance....but was declared fly worthy after the 'fault' was 'rectified'.



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Post by Raffles » Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:15 pm

It is possible that during the rectification of the problem the previous day, something wasn't put back correctly, or another possibility, the static ports were left covered up.

However, they should be able to fly with erratic airspeed which would have resulted, as the weather was clear and it was daytime.



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Post by Propnut » Tue Oct 30, 2018 6:38 am

We wait patiently for the recovery of the black boxes. Luck is on the side of recovery as the debris is at an accessible depth.



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