Malaysia Airlines MH370 B777-200 Missing (239 onboard) Update: debris found off Mozambique and on South African beaches

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What do you think really happened to MH370?

Pilot suicide
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On-board fire or technical fault
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Hijacking gone wrong
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Something sinister
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Post by Raffles » Sat Dec 03, 2016 3:21 pm

I feel for them :sad:



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Post by bmused55 » Mon Dec 05, 2016 9:44 am

Wasted money, wasted effort. Time to move one. Whomever was in control of the plane did a bang up jump flying it somewhere where it would not be found. From the looks of it, that was the intention.



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Post by Bell 407 » Wed Dec 07, 2016 8:48 am

Lone ship left searching for MH370 after Chinese vessel pulls out

Canberra – The seabed search for the missing Malaysian airliner has been left to a single ship, with a Chinese vessel heading home to Shanghai, officials said on Wednesday.

A Dutch survey ship Fugro Equator will finish the search of the southern Indian Ocean for Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 alone after resupplying at the southwest Australian port of Fremantle, the Australian Transport Safety Bureau, which co-ordinates the search, said in a statement.

The Chinese ship, Dong Hai Jiu 101, had finished searching the 120 000km² expanse last weekend and was headed back to Fremantle to drop off equipment before returning to its home port of Shanghai, the statement said.

The Chinese ship in February joined three search vessels operated by the Dutch underwater survey company Fugro in the hunt for the Boeing 777 that authorities say crashed with 239 people aboard far off the southwest coast of Australia on March 8, 2014.

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Fugro Equator is expected to finish the search by February, the statement said. The ship is using a highly manoeuvrable drone known as an autonomous underwater vehicle to get sonar images of difficult terrain.

A group of victims' relatives travelled to the island nation of Madagascar off the southeast coast of Africa and this week offered locals possible financial rewards to search for debris from the plane.

A Malaysian official investigating the disappearance visited Madagascar's capital, Antananarivo, to pick up debris that has already been found and will be analysed to see if it came from the aircraft.

Confirmation that the plane crashed came last year when a wing part washed ashore on Reunion Island in the western Indian Ocean, east of Madagascar. Authorities have offered no explanation of why the plane flew off course during a flight from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, to Beijing.

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Post by Moertoe Pilut » Tue Jan 10, 2017 11:04 am

[bbvideo=640,360]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XglNNST_qzc[/bbvideo]



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Post by Bell 407 » Tue Jan 17, 2017 1:38 pm

Search officially called off.

MH370 Joint Communique
17 January 2017

Today the last search vessel has left the underwater search area. Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 has not been located in the 120,000 square-kilometre underwater search area in the southern Indian Ocean.

Despite every effort using the best science available, cutting edge technology, as well as modelling and advice from highly skilled professionals who are the best in their field, unfortunately, the search has not been able to locate the aircraft.
Accordingly, the underwater search for MH370 has been suspended.

The decision to suspend the underwater search has not been taken lightly nor without sadness. It is consistent with decisions made by our three countries in the July 2016 Ministerial Tripartite meeting in Putrajaya Malaysia.
Whilst combined scientific studies have continued to refine areas of probability, to date no new information has been discovered to determine the specific location of the aircraft.

We have been overwhelmed by the commitment and dedication shown by the hundreds of people involved in the search, which has been an unprecedented challenge. Their tireless work has continued to improve our knowledge of the search area and has been critical in our efforts to locate the aircraft. We would like to reiterate our utmost appreciation to the many nations that have provided expertise and assistance since the early days of this unfortunate tragedy.

Today’s announcement is significant for our three countries, but more importantly for the family and friends of those on board the aircraft. We again take this opportunity to honour the memory of those who have lost their lives and acknowledge the enormous loss felt by their loved ones.

We remain hopeful that new information will come to light and that at some point in the future the aircraft will be located.


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Re: Malaysia Airlines MH370 B777-200 Missing (239 onboard) Update: debris found off Mozambique and on South African beac

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Post by Richard Cranium » Fri Jan 27, 2017 7:18 pm

Push to scour ‘highly likely’ MH370 zone as Boeing urged to pay
The Australian12:00AM January 28, 2017


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The leader of the just-ended underwater hunt for Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370, Paul Kennedy, believes the aircraft can and will be found, saying he could quickly assemble a fresh operation to scour a new area deemed “highly likely” to contain the Boeing 777.

The comments come as pressure mounts on the Australian, Malaysian and Chinese governments to renew the search, and amid calls on US-based Boeing to shell out from its just-announced record annual profit to fund it.

Mr Kennedy, the project director of the $200 million survey of 120,000sq km of deep seabed in the southern Indian Ocean conducted by the Dutch Fugro marine survey group, said “we all feel sad” about the failure to find the plane.

“We hoped to find the debris on the first day, and just four days ago when we were in the search area we were still anticipating we would still find it,” Mr Kennedy told The Weekend Australian in Perth, where he is based.

The effort had involved 300 rotating staff members on Fugro ships and 1.5 million man hours.

MH370 disappeared on March 8, 2014, on a scheduled flight from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing, with 239 people on board. Its radar transponder was turned off and radio communications cut about 40 minutes into the flight when, primary radar and automatic satellite tracking shows, it doubled back over Malaysia to the Andaman Sea and then turned south.

While Malaysia has responsibility for the investigation into the lost aircraft because it was registered in that country, the Australian Transport Safety Bureau led the underwater search with the cost shared among the three governments.

On Monday, ATSB chief commissioner Greg Hood said it was “highly likely” the wreckage of the missing aircraft is in a new 25,000sq km area identified last month by a panel of international experts, but said any decision on whether to search it was “a question for governments”.

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At the same press conference in Perth, Malaysian Transport Minister Liow Tiong Lai said “we need more credible evidence before we move to the next search area”.

Mr Kennedy said should Fugro get a new commission to look for MH370, “it wouldn’t take us long at all” to marshal resources since the company had 350 staff in Perth and equipment stationed there including a $10m torpedo-like autonomous sonar imaging vehicle.

“She’ll be found, for sure,” Mr Kennedy said of MH370.

The ATSB has not costed a new search, but based on the cost per square kilometre of the search just ended, to cover the proposed 25,000sq km area to the north would have a price tag of $42m.

Boeing this week announced its 2016 annual results, reporting revenue of $US96.4 billion ($127bn), and record operating cashflow of $US10.5bn.

Danica Weeks, who lost her husband Paul on MH370 and now lives as a single mum in Queensland, called on Boeing to “come to the plate” to fund a new search, observing “it’s a Boeing plane”.

Last week Malaysian Deputy Transport Minister Abdul Aziz Kaprawi said “there’s been no funding from Boeing”.

Boeing has consistently refused to say whether it would consider sponsoring a renewed underwater search, but has observed the company provides expertise to agencies conducting air crash investigations.

Professionals in the aviation industry said it was essential the ­proposed 25,000sq km hunting ground be covered.


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Post by bmused55 » Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:51 am

That looks like part of the flap actuator fairing.



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Post by Moertoe Pilut » Tue Jan 31, 2017 10:23 am

With most of the debris washing up on the african east coast, surely they must realise that the "search area" isn't where they thought it would be....



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Post by avi-addict » Tue Jan 31, 2017 11:56 am

Yup.. it's a damn far way for currents to move these parts up to here and then almost in the same direction.....for me it points to a real 'fishy' direction for the reasons of this accident.....so damn far off track.



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Post by Bell 407 » Tue Jan 31, 2017 1:05 pm

You would think so too Moertoe :thinking:



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Post by Moertoe Pilut » Tue Jan 31, 2017 1:33 pm

Here is a look at the southern Indian Ocean neighborhood where search efforts are “concentrated”.

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Locations of 5 debris items found to date. Area highlighted in blue is a rough estimate of the source location for all five objects. One of the plane’s ULB pingers MAY have been detected by Australia’s Ocean Shield in April 2014, but it was initially dismissed as a fish pinger.


While it must be noted that debris NEVER drifts directly west from anywhere in the Indian Ocean, the blue highlighted area shows where the debris found so far likely originated. It also suggests, but does not prove, that the primary reason Australia has yet to find ANY of the debris is that it has spend two years searching an area that is 2,000 km or more south of the plane’s terminal location.

Here is the most recent drift analysis prepared by Germany’s Geomar. Annotations in red are mine, as is the GPS coordinate.

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This chart was prepared by Geomar to illustrate where the flaperon found in July 2015 likely originated. The circle shows the location of Zenith Plateau, a large Seamount, long suspected as the terminal location of MH370.


While this latest graphic from Geomar is enormously helpful, and confirms a great deal of speculation, a number of those who continue to search for clues to the plane’s location focused on the Zenith Plateau and Wharton Basin areas northwest of Exmouth, Australia early in 2016. So it is significant that Geomar’s efforts point to the same area. All current estimates are based on an assumption that the 7th Arc is generally correct.


Looking at the map above and the drift model from 2015, I'd say the 7th arc is nowhere near where that airplane could be?

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Post by Bell 407 » Sun Feb 05, 2017 11:34 am

Sad but true HS :scratch:



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Post by happyskipper » Sun Feb 05, 2017 12:28 pm

Bell 407 wrote:Sad but true HS :scratch:


There are very few true coincidences in this world. The fact that there were 20 people on board this aircraft who would have known how to make the aircraft disappear, makes me very confident that that is exactly what happened..... :deadhorse:

20 DOD contractors who were working specifically on electronic "cloaking" of aircraft just happened to be on an aircraft that disappeared?? :gooneybird:



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Post by gear up » Mon Feb 06, 2017 6:41 am

happyskipper wrote:
Bell 407 wrote:Sad but true HS :scratch:


There are very few true coincidences in this world. The fact that there were 20 people on board this aircraft who would have known how to make the aircraft disappear, makes me very confident that that is exactly what happened..... :deadhorse:

20 DOD contractors who were working specifically on electronic "cloaking" of aircraft just happened to be on an aircraft that disappeared?? :gooneybird:


I agree 100% with your thinking :goodpost:


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Post by Gooneybird » Fri Feb 10, 2017 10:57 am

This is a VERY INTERESTING option for MH370

[bbvideo=560,315]https://www.quora.com/What-do-you-think-happened-to-flight-MH370-passengers-during-its-final-hour[/bbvideo]

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Post by bmused55 » Fri Feb 24, 2017 12:41 pm

I think that is BS.

The flight path taken after the loss of contact is not in line with would happen.

If the crew became incapacitated via such a decompression, assuming they forgot all procedures and did not put on their masks, the plane would fly the set route in the flight management system. Once it gets to the last way point without any further instruction it would circle that way point until fuel exhaustion.

I don't buy this nonsense about a fire causing enough problems to incapacitate every single person on the plane, including the crew who have their own oxygen supplies, for over 7 hours, yet leave the aircraft airworthy enough to make sharp turns and fly for over 7 hours. A fire that would kill all on board so quickly that no calls for help over the radio or mobile phone could not be attempted would have to also destroyed the aircraft and we'd have found it not too far from the point where contact was lost.

We all here know what a large hole in the fuselage can do at altitude and cruising speed.

The plane flew an unplanned yet seemingly deliberate route, made several turns, even flying circles above the Captains house. It was definitely under someone's control.

In the final moments the person who had taken control either ignored the warnings regarding engine flame out and stalling, or they had de pressurised the plane and died.

If you know how to turn the transponder off and command the AP, you'll know how to depressurise the plane.



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Post by Moertoe Pilut » Sat Feb 25, 2017 12:54 am

The airplane circled over the Captains house? I must have missed that along the lines, any referral to that? I totally agree with you Sandy, there's no way that the airplane changed course several times without alterations into the FMC. If they were incapacitated it would follow programmed flight plan route and ended up like a Helios scenario. BTW, before speculating that the route was programmed earlier on into the FMC, both both pilots have to verify the route before pressing EXECUTE. Even if it was done earlier in a sneaky manner, it would clearly show on the EHSI and the FMC would warn "USING RESERVE FUEL".



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Post by Aztec driver » Mon Mar 20, 2017 5:38 pm

Conspiracy theories will always abound, on closer inspection it usually prove to be nonsense. Until this plane is actually found, speculation will remain rife and of course completely fruitless


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