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Post by 87Juliet » Thu Mar 24, 2016 11:13 am

When we moved out of our previous home we had to leave our herb and veggie garden behind... And of course there's something special about going into the garden in the evening to get fresh herbs and veggies for supper!

In the new place there just isn't suitable ground to do the same so I got to thinking about a solution and here it is!

I had 9 wood boards cut a while back to make shelves for the garage, needless to say I never got around to that and the birds have been lying in my garage taking up space. Somewhere online I saw a guy had made above-ground veggie "bins" out of 44gal drums cut in half! So I realised that I could make a similar solution out of those wood boards I had lying in the garage!

I also reckoned this would be a cool project for my kids to get into with me, and doubles as an educational exercise too!

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Getting there:
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Making sure no fingers got injured in the making of the exercise

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Cutting 5 of the boards in half to make the sides and centre beam supports
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Done for the day... Completion over the long weekend!
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Neatly packed away!
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Post by Bell 407 » Thu Mar 24, 2016 11:22 am

Very cool indeed 87J. Are you going to treat the wood with anything?

Looking forward to seeing the finished product as well as all the weeds growing in it :clap:



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Post by 87Juliet » Thu Mar 24, 2016 1:23 pm

Bell 407 wrote:Very cool indeed 87J. Are you going to treat the wood with anything?



Good question and something i've been thinking about. This board is a laminate press-board type of thing and I do have some concern about water getting in there and the board swelling... But it should be good for a few years.

I'm in for a total of about R1000 for the board, the supporting blocks and screws; so not a massive amount of loot. If it lasts 3 years I'll be happy!



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Post by 87Juliet » Thu Mar 24, 2016 2:38 pm

Got a PM recommending i seal the wood with a good outdoor marine varnish, so I'll be going down that road... I have a tin of varnish in the house which is for outdoor use. Bought it to paint bird feeders a while back but never got to that...

Right now it'll be open underneath... I'm thinking about getting some gravel to put at the bottom before putting the topsoil/compost mix on top. Any thoughts on whether to put a "floor" in or will the gravel suffice? The ground underneath is quite hard and oily...

We've been quite successful with the gardening thing, had a huge tomato rank at the old place and loads of basil and fennel, as well as loads of mint, lemon verbena, wormwood, spring onions, chilli's, parsley, etc etc.... Keen to get some carrots, garlic, potatoes (these ill get a bunch of old tyres from work and grow in there), brinjals, celery, butternut & sweet potato (apparently there's an art to sweet potato!)

I'm reading a bit on livingseeds.co.za and will probably get organic non-GMO seeds and seedlings from them.



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Post by Bell 407 » Thu Mar 24, 2016 2:44 pm

87Juliet wrote:Any thoughts on whether to put a "floor" in or will the gravel suffice?

If you can leave the "floor" out the better. But good stones in the base will be excellent for drainage and much needed.



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Post by 87Juliet » Thu Mar 24, 2016 3:34 pm

Bell 407 wrote:If you can leave the "floor" out the better. But good stones in the base will be excellent for drainage and much needed.


Cool!!



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Post by Kompos » Thu Mar 24, 2016 4:32 pm

Locate wood pallets and build your garden from that wood. You normally get the pallets for free or at a very cheap price. Save your pressed wood for shelves as it will expand due to the water and the sealant may poison your plants.
Another option is to use plastic gutters, You can then attach it to a wall. Will try and upload some phodies.



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Post by 87Juliet » Sun Sep 18, 2016 4:10 pm

Ok, so after having to put this project away for a while due to shortage of $$ resources we picked it up again today to get the boards sealed and ready for assembly!

Some sanding got done...
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Then some wood sealant got applied...

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This is the wood sealant I got, seems to be doing the job ok!
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Then the sides got sealed with an acrylic PVA ...

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So there was also some ideas whether to put a layer of gravel in the bottom of the bins... I've subsequently been googling and there are a number of similar projects that recommend lining the bin with a mesh fabric sheet of some sort! I popped down to the local Benbel shop and there they had a proper 2m wide roll of this material specifically for my application! At R75/m and needing 10m or so, this is not exactly a cheap exercise but I reckon worth it in the long run!

Now we're packed away for today, assembly next weekend!

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Post by Bell 407 » Sun Sep 18, 2016 4:30 pm

Looking very good indeed 87J. Looking forward to the final "Sod Turning" event next week. Wire mesh works well in the bottom of a container to help allow water to drain through. Have used mesh on many pot and plant holders in the past.



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Post by 87Juliet » Mon Sep 19, 2016 7:11 am

avi-addict wrote:Jaques....have a look at these...

https://m.facebook.com/312926148767256/ ... &source=48


Some nice ones there! This is sort of what my end result should look like:

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Post by Raffles » Mon Sep 19, 2016 6:20 pm

Cool! we did something like that when I worked for the US embassy.



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Post by 87Juliet » Sun Sep 25, 2016 4:36 pm

Another instalment for today...

Completed the single small bin and one of the two big ones!

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Next weekend we'll finish the second big bin and by then the soil and compost will have been delivered... I bought the weed barrier netting this morning and then we'll line the bins before tackling the soil!


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Post by 87Juliet » Sun Sep 25, 2016 4:37 pm

For what it's worth, we've decided that this is the next project!

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Post by Bell 407 » Sun Sep 25, 2016 4:48 pm

87Juliet wrote:For what it's worth, we've decided that this is the next project!

Now that looks like a cool project :good: :good:

Like what you have done with the veggie bins so far :clap: :clap:



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Post by Raffles » Sun Sep 25, 2016 6:16 pm

Cool man! With the price of veg these days you can't go wrong.

I wish my dad would do the same.



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Post by 87Juliet » Mon Sep 26, 2016 8:03 am

Raffles wrote:Cool man! With the price of veg these days you can't go wrong.

I wish my dad would do the same.


Raffles, for what it's worth, this project cost me a bit more than I anticipated, but there was a lot more than "saving" money in mind when we set out to do this.

With homeschooling/unschooling our kids, this is a project that fits into an educational space as well:

- Planning & project research
- "technical drawing"
- Cost calculating
- Woodworking and the use of the related tools
- basic assembly
- soil selection & ideas
- Irrigation solutions
- plant choices & year planner for those plants (i.e. what should we be planting when to achieve a reasonable crop)

Of course this is also a fun thing to do with the kids, spend time with them, make them feel like they have part ownership of the project and therefore they're incentivised to help us maintain it. Josh has already asked me how much "rent" I would charge him to have the small bin all to himself! Now there's an entrepreneurial spirit coming through there, I just hope he doesn't charge me too much for the veggies he's going to grow there! He's already talking about brinjals, strawberries, etc... talk about high value crops....

From a cost perspective, here's a rough breakdown of where I'm at:

Wood Boards (9 x 2,44m) = R800
Support "beams" = +-R200
Wood screws = R50
Wood sealant & PVA sealant = R450
Weed barrier netting = R325
Wood drill bits (4.0mm) = R45

So a total of around R1870 without the soil & compost. My calculations for the soil & compost is around R1800 for 2.5 m3 of soil and 1 m3 for organic compost. So all in all I'm in for around R3670. Considering I spend around R800 every two weeks at the Cape Town Market (http://www.ctmarket.co.za/) on fresh fruit & veg, it'll be a while before break-even point from a ROI perspective, but again, it wasn't all about the financial element.

The spill-over effect is that this project has gotten me bitten with a minor bug in that I'm keen to build some more stuff... Hence the next project. And there's a dollhouse in the works for Annie too!



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Post by Bell 407 » Mon Sep 26, 2016 8:06 am

Nothing wrong with woodwork. I think it is probably the most therapeutic thing to do :goodpost:



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Post by Moertoe Pilut » Mon Sep 26, 2016 6:31 pm

Looks stunning 87J, maybe I should start something like that and grow some dagga crop :bingo: Must be a good turn over.



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Post by 87Juliet » Mon Oct 03, 2016 5:53 pm

Ok so, here we go again...

I got the topsoil/compost mix delivered on Friday morning, as well as a wheelbarrow and two long planks... There was method in my madness...

I enlisted the help of a friend of mine to get the weed barrier netting stapled into place and place the bins where they need to be (according to the neck of the household of course!)

We started with the single bin, just to check the process...

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We then placed the single bin in EXACTLY the place that mommy wanted it to be in and proceeded to wheelbarrow the soil from outside in the driveway.

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The compost heap getting smaller...

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We roped in the two boys to be the managers of the spades, and fill the wheelbarrow on its turnaround...

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We then installed the weed barrier into the first of the double bins (I hadn't even finished assembling the second double bin at this point yet)

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Second double-bin in place and filled with soil and compost...

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We had plenty soil left that we decided to quickly assemble the third bin and get it into place... Filling with soil...

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And then... (drumroll please...) I give you, the completed 87J veggie bin project!

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We felt rather chuffed with ourselves!

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Of course, we now need to start planting... But that's for the next episode...


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