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Post by 87Juliet » Mon May 23, 2016 1:46 pm

Got this in the email this morning and makes for interesting reading:


When Jefferson saw there was no negotiating with Muslims, he formed
what is now the Marines (sea going soldiers). These Marines were attached
to U.S. Merchant vessels.
When the Muslims attacked U.S. merchant vessels they were repulsed by
armed soldiers, but there is more. The Marines followed the Muslims back
to their villages and killed every man, woman, and child in the village. It
didn't take long for the Muslims to leave U.S. Merchant vessels alone.
English and French merchant vessels started running up our flag when entering the
Mediterranean to secure safe travel.

Why the Marine Hymn Contains the Verse "To the Shores of Tripoli "
This is very interesting and a must read piece of our history. It
points out where we may be heading.
Most Americans are unaware of the fact that over two hundred years ago
the United States had declared war on Islam and Thomas Jefferson led the
At the height of the 18th century, Muslim pirates (the "Barbary Pirates")
were the terror of the Mediterranean and a large area of the North
They attacked every ship in sight, and held the crews for exorbitant
ransoms. Those taken hostage were subjected to barbaric treatment and
wrote heart-breaking letters home, begging their government and family
members to pay whatever their Mohammedan captors demanded.

These extortionists of high seas represented the North African Islamic
nations of Tripoli , Tunis , Morocco , and Algiers - collectively referred
to as the Barbary Coast - and presented a dangerous and unprovoked threat to
the new American Republic .

Before the Revolutionary War , U.S. merchant ships had been under the
protection of Great Britain . When the U.S. declared its independence and
entered into war, the ships of the United States were protected by France .
However, once the war was won, America had to protect its own fleets.
Thus, the birth of the U.S. Navy. Beginning in 1784, 17 years before he
would become President, Thomas Jefferson became America 's Minister to
France . That same year, U.S. Congress sought to appease its Muslim
adversaries by following in the footsteps of European nations who paid
bribes to the Barbary States rather than engaging them in war.

In July of 1785, Algerian pirates captured American ships, and the Dye of
Algiers demanded an unheard-of ransom of $60,000. It was a plain and
simple case of extortion, and Thomas Jefferson was vehemently opposed to any
further payments. Instead, he proposed to Congress the formation of a
coalition of allied nations who together could force the Islamic states into
peace. A disinterested Congress decided to pay the ransom.

In 1786, Thomas Jefferson and John Adams met with Tripoli 's ambassador to
Great Britain to ask by what right his nation attacked American ships and
enslaved American citizens, and why Muslims held so much hostility
towards America , a nation with which they had no previous contacts.
The two future Presidents reported that Ambassador Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman
Adja had answered that Islam "was founded on the Laws of their
Prophet, that it was written in their Qur'an that all nations who would not acknowledge
their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war
upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could
take as prisoners, and that every "Mussel man" (Muslim) who should be slain
in Battle was sure to go to Paradise ."

Despite this stunning admission of premeditated violence on non-Muslim
nations, as well as the objections of many notable American leaders,
including George Washington, who warned that caving in was both wrong and
would only further embolden the enemy, for the following fifteen years
the American government paid the Muslims millions of dollars for the safe
passage of American ships or the return of American hostages. The payments
in ransom and tribute amounted to over 20 percent of the United States
government annual revenues in 1800.

Jefferson was disgusted. Shortly after his being sworn in as the third
President of the United States in 1801, the Pasha of Tripoli sent him a
note demanding the immediate payment of $225,000 plus $25,000 a year for
every year forthcoming. That changed everything.
Jefferson let the Pasha know, in no uncertain terms, what he could do
with his demand. The Pasha responded by cutting down the flagpole at the
American consulate and declared war on the United States . Tunis , Morocco , and
Algiers immediately followed suit. Jefferson, until now, had been against
America raising a naval force for anything beyond coastal defense, but, having
watched his nation be cowed by Islamic thuggery for long enough, decided
that it was finally time to meet force with force.

He dispatched a squadron of frigates to the Mediterranean and taught the
Muslim nations of the Barbary Coast a lesson he hoped they would never
forget. Congress authorized Jefferson to empower U.S. ships to seize all
vessels and goods of the Pasha of Tripoli and to "cause to be done all other
acts of precaution or hostility as the state of war would justify".

When Algiers and Tunis , who were both accustomed to American cowardice and
acquiescence, saw the newly independent United States had both the will and
the right to strike back, they quickly abandoned their allegiance to
Tripoli . The war with Tripoli lasted for four more years, and raged up
again in 1815. The bravery of the U.S. Marine Corps in these wars led to the line
"to the shores of Tripoli " in the Marine Hymn, and they would forever be
known as "leathernecks" for the leather collars of their uniforms, designed
to prevent their heads from being cut off by the Muslim scimitars when
boarding enemy ships.

Islam, and what its Barbary followers justified doing in the name of
their prophet and their god, disturbed Jefferson quite deeply.
America had a tradition of religious tolerance. In fact Jefferson , himself,
had co-authored the Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom, but
fundamentalist Islam was like no other religion the world had ever seen.
A religion based on supremacy, whose holy book not only condoned but
mandated violence against unbelievers, was unacceptable to him. His greatest
fear was that someday this brand of Islam would return and pose an even greater
threat to the United States .

This should concern every one:
That Muslims have brought about women-only classes and swimming times at
taxpayer-funded universities and public pools; that Christians,
Buddhists,Orthodox,and those of different religious believes have been
banned from serving on juries where Muslim defendants are
being judged; Piggy banks and Porky Pig tissue dispensers have been
banned from workplaces because they offend Islamist sensibilities; ice cream has
been discontinued at certain Burger King locations because the picture on
the wrapper looks similar to the Arabic script for Allah; public schools are
pulling pork from their menus; on and on and on and on...

It's death by a thousand cuts, or inch-by-inch as some refer to it, and most
Americans have no idea that this battle is being waged every day across
America . By not fighting back, by allowing groups to obfuscate what is
really happening, and not insisting that the Islamists adapt to our own
culture, the United States is cutting its own throat with a politically
correct knife, and helping to further the Islamists agenda.

Sadly, it appears that today leaders would rather be politically correct than victorious!

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Post by Bell 407 » Mon May 23, 2016 1:55 pm

Thanks 87J, interesting read and some history I didn't know about :thinking:

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